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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 10:56:46 pm » |
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Was that really Jesse Ventura?
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 11:01:10 pm » |
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I've been to ECW matches. Back in the day they could get pretty vicious in the audience as well as in the ring. Wrestling is fake, but some of the things that happen certainly aren't. I remember a fight that occured in the audience when one of the wrestlers spilled someone's beer...
Overall there is nothing like being ringside and seeing someone use a cheese grater on another persons face. I also never saw so many weapons be taken away from a single group of people entering any facility before in my life. Its not like they were hidden. People took anything from chains to a field hockey stick.
I didn't notice anything about Jesse the Body. I don't ever remember him being associated with ECW. The two that were standing were Terry Funk and Mick Foley.
You have to realize that these are the people who would wrestle in barb wired rings with tacks on the floor. They aren't as hard core as the Big Japan Death Matches, but for the US these were pretty good shows.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2008, 08:01:32 pm » |
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Well, I meant are the chairs thrown in part of the act or just spontaneous participation from the fans.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2008, 06:52:39 pm » |
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Oh I absolutely see that happening just as it did. Not fake. Those people are crazy. I mean it could be fake. I can't be 100% certain. But I can tell you I have seen/been involved in some crazy things there.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 10:29:41 pm » |
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Well, I disagree. It's fake. I have WWF Wresters stay at my place of employment and guess what....the spectators in the front rows are the hired crew who set the stage, lights, etc. I would imagine that 95% of the time they are either part of the act or just there for liability purposes.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2008, 07:07:40 pm » |
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Yes, it's all choreographed and staged. That's not to say these men aren't atheletes. They really do lift other 300 pound men over their heads and throw them down on the spring-loaded, heavily-padded mat. It takes some serious strength to do that.
And the balance and cooperation of the guy being thrown helps a WHOLE lot too...
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2008, 07:26:17 pm » |
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Ok. Remember this is before ECW joined WWE. This is back in the old days of ECW. I have gone to the Lebanon Valley Expo Center to see these events. I am sure you can ask someone you know about the size of that place Barry. Tickets were all general admission and seating was not reserved.
I am not saying that wrestling isn't fake. I do however believe that the fans who attended the old ECW matches are capable of this. This video may have been posted recently, but it wasn't filmed recently. They mention the ECW arena, which was in Philly if memory serves, and that was used prior to the McMahon family purcahsing the company.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2008, 09:09:59 pm » |
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Wait a minute, I think I've figured out this topic.
A choreographed, highly-staged, media-intensive, money-driven, rehearsed, distraction of a contest between two individuals with a crazy audience that can't (or doesn't want to) tell reality from fantasy regarding a meaningless theatrical conflict with an irrelevant outcome.
This is a metaphor for two-party political system we have today!
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2008, 09:21:38 pm » |
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I don't think I have ever met anyone nearly as good as you, Mark, at observing a topic and accurately transforming it to a logical and relivant oberservation on politics.
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