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« on: July 08, 2008, 07:31:16 pm »

I saw this at the Institute for Justice web site.  IJ is suing Philly over its regulation that requires tour guides to pass a test and become licensed, else they be fined.  I put the IJ link and press release below.

I’m in Pittsburgh, so this is the first I’ve heard of this.  I suppose it has made the rounds in the Philly papers.  If so, let me offer a suggestion for a LTE -- a really sarcastic LTE or maybe a local LP press release -- with the right imagination.

Write that you’ve secretly received a copy of the latest set of test question and answers.  Share a few of them in the LTE.  Here’s an example:

Q1:  Ben Franklin is very important to the city of Philadelphia because:
a) He was a signer to the Declaration of Independence.
b) He negotiated support from France helping the war for independence.
c) He started the first public lending library in America and the first fire department in Pennsylvania.  
d) Philadelphia gets a cut when you tell someone about a, b or c.

Of course, the current mayor, former mayors, any dumb policy, etc. would be fair game too.

IJ put up billboards in Pittsburgh attacking then Mayor Tom Murphy about his imminent domain plans.  If they have the budget, maybe they’ll put up billboards in Philly with questions like above (shorter of course).  

Mark

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http://www.ij.org/first_amendment/pa_tour_guides/7_2_08pr.html

Tour Guides File Federal First Amendment Lawsuit

Seek to Vindicate the Freedom to Speak in Philadelphia


WEB RELEASE: July 2, 2008

Media Contact:
Bob Ewing
(703) 682-9320

Arlington, Va—May the city of Philadelphia subject tour guides to hundreds of dollars in fines for engaging in unauthorized talking?

This is the question the Institute for Justice (IJ) seeks to answer in a federal lawsuit filed today, two days before Philadelphia celebrates the signing of the Declaration of Independence, in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.  The suit is brought on behalf of three Philadelphia tour guides—Mike Tait, Josh Silver and Ann Boulais—seeking to overturn a law enacted in April that will make it illegal for anyone like them to give a tour of much of the city’s downtown area without first passing a test and obtaining a government license—without, in essence, getting the government’s permission to speak.  Effective in October, unlicensed tour guides can face fines of up to $300 per violation and have their businesses shut down.

“The government cannot be in the business of deciding who may speak and who may not,” said Robert McNamara, a staff attorney with the Institute for Justice, a national public interest law firm with a history of defending free speech and the rights of entrepreneurs.  “The Constitution protects your right to communicate for a living, whether you are a journalist, a musician or a tour guide.  It makes no more sense to let city officials decide who is allowed to talk about history than it would to let them decide who is allowed to talk about sports.”

The new law makes it illegal to give a tour for compensation of the city’s main tourist area without first submitting a written application, paying a fee, providing proof of insurance and passing a written examination in order to be granted a license to tour.  The program will be administered and the test developed by an administrative agency to be named by the mayor’s office.  No test has been made public.

The law is targeted at speech and applies only to someone who guides or directs people within the city or offers to do so while “provid[ing] information on the City’s geography, history, historic sites, historic structures, historic objects or other places of interest.”  The program also discriminates against small or independent tour operators.  The law gives the administrative agency complete discretion to exempt large operators—who would be better able to cope with the costs of regulation—from the testing requirements, provided the companies have training programs that are “equivalent.”

The irony of forbidding people to talk about Philadelphia’s history—including the history of the Framers’ enshrining fundamental American liberties in the Constitution—is not lost on Mike Tait, Josh Silver and Ann Boulais, three Philadelphians who make their living by telling visitors and natives about the history, culture and architecture of the place they love.  Mike, Josh and Ann are serious about their city’s history—they share a deep commitment to accuracy as well as entertainment in their tours—and they are also serious about the liberties protected by the Constitution, which is why they joined together with the Institute for Justice to strike down the Philadelphia tour guide licensing scheme as a violation of their freedom of speech and right to earn an honest living.

“It is the right of every American to challenge laws that are unfair and wrong,” said Mike Tait.  “As a matter of fact, that was fundamentally what the signing of the Declaration of Independence in Philadelphia—and the birth of our nation—was all about.”  

“This unfortunate law is part of a nationwide explosion of occupational licensing that has occurred in recent decades,” said Institute for Justice President and General Counsel Chip Mellor.  “The city’s decision to force tour guides to obtain government licenses before speaking is just another surprising example of government gone wrong and precisely the type of regulation the Institute was created to combat.”

Founded in 1991, the Virginia-based Institute for Justice has represented individuals nationwide who successfully defended their free speech rights and ability to earn an honest living in the occupations of their choice.  These cases include the landmark legal battle to open the interstate shipment of wine, in which the U.S. Supreme Court struck down discriminatory state shipping laws that hampered small wineries as well as consumers.  IJ also freed online advertisers from complying with California’s onerous real estate licensing regime and secured the first federal appeals court victory for economic liberty since the New Deal, this on behalf of casket retailers in Tennessee.

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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2008, 11:56:58 pm »

Mark-
Disregard the part of the email I sent when I asked where you are from. haha.  My girlfriend loves Pittsburgh, especially the Penguins and Steelers.  We're thinking about going out there at some point later on this year.  This is ridiculous.  A fine for not being licensed to speak about history?  I suppose that means that if a parent wants to take their child down to to Philly (which is about an hour from me) and takes a few of their friends along with them that they can get fined?  It is extremely troublesome that the government keeps running down this path.  Worse yet, my girlfriend is right across the river from me in NJ and believe me, Jersey makes PA seem like an anarchist society.  I think that we've seen so many instances like this that people have just lost interest in voting for reforms, which exacerbates the problem.
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2008, 06:55:22 am »

This isn't anything new. Gettysburg already requires this. Of course there reasoning is a bit different than Philadelphia. Both are flawed. This is more of an opportunity to attack licensing as a whole if you ask me. The government should have very little to say in who is qualified to perform any service.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2008, 07:43:50 am »

I have to say, I've taken some buggy rides in Philly with out of state visitors. I never accept the stories guides convey as fact.  Instead, I use them as inspiration to further research the matters they draw my attention to.  The thought of testing and licensing them is absurd.

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2008, 08:16:40 am »

I just read the article to see if it matched up with the information I had been given. Listening to the radio this past week I heard a program that had one of the lawyers for the tour guides on. In this program the city commissioners were actually complaining about the fact that some guides said negative things about the city. They had overheard this and that is when this legislation was introduced. How dare someone make a negative comment about filthadelphia. They can't handle dissention amongst the populace so they have determined a way to stifle it. The worst part is that not all guides will have to take this test. Some companies will be exempted by the city from this licensing procedure.

I am so glad I don't have to go there anymore.
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2008, 09:35:22 am »

Perhaps, as Libertarians, we should come up with a market-oriented solution to the problem of finding a good Philly tour guide.

Anyone want to work together to launch a website where people can post their reviews of tour guides, and we can provide basic information like photo, cost of tour, what the tour consists of, how to find or contact the tour guide, etc. ?

I volunteer to handle all technical aspects of the website. Who can go out and collect information? How about someone to do publicity?

This would be free of charge to all users indefinitely, but if at some time in the future it generated funds we can donate them to a worthy cause, like the LP or some freedom-oriented foundation.

Imagine if we as LPers came up with a solution that doesn't require a law and gives consumers more power?

I'm assuming of course that such a thing doesn't already exist. Does it?
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2008, 10:19:16 am »

Perhaps, as Libertarians, we should come up with a market-oriented solution to the problem of finding a good Philly tour guide.

Easy.

A 100% voluntary program where tour guides could take the test, and upon passing they could get a card, a pin, a badge, a hat... whatever that had some symbol or writing on it indicating that they are "certified".  They can encourage people to "look for the Good Guide symbol!" on advertisements, etc...  Eventually, this Good Guide (tm) badge would become sysnonymous with legit tourist operations.

And it could all be done without punitive measures and draconian government control.
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2008, 10:25:25 am »

Dang.  My idea is so brilliant, I should actually form a business to do this... The "Good Guide" badge would be green background with a yellow "GG" logo, easily recognizable from a distance.

Good Guides, inc. could provide certification quizzes for tourist locations nationwide, available online.  They could even have rankings for levels of expertise, with really tough exams for the highest rankings.

The Good Guides logo would be so widespread that people who visited Baltimore last summer will see the logo again when they visit the Grand Canyon.  Soon that badge starts to register in people's minds as meaning "Tour Guide" and people offering tours without the badge will seem odd for some reason.  The presence of the GG logo on the brochure, the signage, and the guide's uniforms would inspire trust they will get a quality, truthful, professional tour.
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2008, 10:32:28 am »

I don't know, seems a little too regimented for me, klapton. I'm not crazy about getting people to trust a logo. I like the Amazon approach, where you get to comment on the product, and see other people's comments, and then make your own decision.

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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2008, 09:52:05 pm »

A few comments:

1) Only Paid -- The city objects only if you're a PAID tour guide without the official city-approved license.  Now if someone gives a free tour guide a tip or would buy lunch, who knows?

2) Check with IJ -- I'm impressed with the ideas suggested here as a counter to the Philly licensing.  Before anyone starts down that path, however, let me suggest something first.

Call the Institute for Justice and share your outrage over this matter and, maybe, give them some praise for handling this.  Then ask them what you can do to help.  They have their famous "Castle Coalition" for lobbying against eminent domain.  Maybe they have something cooking for speech intrusions.  Working with IJ might exert much more leverage. Even if you want to wing it alone, IJ might have some useful suggestions.

3) Free Tours of Philly Oppression -- Imagine a free tour guide who passes out free literature too.  What if that literature had full IJ story of the licensing issue?  Now imagine that literature has IJ contact information where you can donate to IJ to fight this intrusion.  And suppose it had contact information to tell the city you're supporting IJ and the oppressed tour guides over the city.

You wouldn't even have to give tours, only distribute the IJ information and contact the city to rub it in.

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