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« on: June 25, 2008, 12:38:36 am »
VIA EMAIL FROM WWW.RESTORETHEREPUBLIC.COM EMAIL I RCVD:

In an act of defiance to international law and its allies to
the south, Canadian authorities in conjunction with their US
counterparts worked to silence the 4 year incarceration and
torture of an American citizen. 

One of our own, in Canada, was placed in solitary confinement,
entombed in a steel coffin, and sprayed with steam until his skin
blistered as retaliation for exposing a drug ring run by rogue
members of a Canadian police department.

Scott Loper's wife was intimidated by these same police officers
and forced into cutting off contact with him. He has not
seen his wife or son since and does not know of their fate.

Justice is far from overdue in this case and the "leaders" whom
we trust with our safety have done nothing to see that this story
receives the attention it deserves.

The cover up of the Scott Loper story goes as high as the White
House.

My brothers and sisters, one of us has been wounded and scarred
by those we trust, and when one bleeds we all bleed. This is the
American way.

It is time to put the full weight and force of Restore The
Republic into the door of the State Department and the halls of
congress to demand Congressional hearings on this matter.


This is what must be done:

1. Email and phone call:

Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs; 
Michelle Bond Phone:  202.736.9090

Acting Director, Overseas Citizens Services and Crisis Management:
David Swartz: Phone: 202.647.6137

Chief, Western Hemisphere Division U.S. State Department; 
Ken Durkin: Phone- 202.647.5113 or 202.736.4996

House Majority Leader, Congressman Steny Hoyer;
Phone -  202.225.4131  or  (301) 843-1577

Speaker of The House of Representatives
Nancy Pelosi;  202.225.4965

When calling state, "All of America is watching how you handle
the Scott Loper case, when will you properly address it?"
 
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2008, 01:18:28 am »
To be honest with you I'm not too familiar with some of these issue but a quick Google search shows that these are very much connected to Truther issues, which is deeply disturbing.  I have an extremely low tolerance for Truthers.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2008, 01:28:53 am »
and what exactly is a truther?
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2008, 01:31:37 am »
You know full well what a Truther is
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billseeds
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2008, 01:35:23 am »
i'm not trying to be a smartass, seriously, what is a truther?

if i were to guess, it would be a person who writes scarecrows...
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2008, 01:39:18 am »
Seriously man, if you're one of the Loose Change heads I won't have any tolerance for you.  I can't speak for the rest of the board here since I'm not truly in the LP at this point, but I have no patience for that kind of insanity. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2008, 02:25:52 am »
he that has no patience has nothing at all.....

have a nice day, you clearly are a superior being
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2008, 08:39:43 am »
I know there are folks who develop over the top conspiracy theories.

But, there are also those who are calling for a real investigation who don't believe we have had one thus far.  I would call these people truthers. 

Have you read the 911 commission report?  Do you find it comprehensive.  Do you feel the investigation of the matter has been exhausted?  Do you believe we know who planned the attacks, who carried out the attacks and who funded the attacks?  Are you satisfied that we know all there is to know about this matter and that those responsible for planning and implementing the attacks have been identified and brought to justice?

Surely you don't believe that attacking the Taliban and liberating Iraq somehow solves the problem.

I want to respect your point of view.  I just need to understand it.  I would sincerely be interested in hearing your view on the matter.  I'm sure many others, perhaps the majority in this nation share your outlook on the matter

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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2008, 10:24:02 am »
The real asnwer to 911:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNwtJLnMoiw

Watch all the way to the end to get the real answer.
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2008, 06:18:24 pm »
My own conspiracy is that The U.S knows exactly where Osama Bin Laden is. It also knows that if you kill him he is not that big a genius and might be replaced with someone better. The intelligence gathered from spying on him is worth more than his dead rotting corpse.

So do we doubt that Islamic militants hate us enough to try and kill us?

Do we doubt that Islamic militants can learn to fly airplanes?

Do we doubt that pre 911 it was pretty easy to hijack an air craft?

Do you doubt that the people said to be Islamic terrorists Hijacked the air planes ?

What flaws do you have with the Popular Mechanics explanation of the collapse of the towers?

Does anyone doubt that if you make this a major feature of the Party that no one will vote for you?

The 911 report was half CYA and half finger pointing, not very useful. No I don't think that we know all the answers, I just don't think George Bush blew up the World Trade Center or the Levies in New Orleans. Having studied pre WW II intelligence I don't think that FDR set up Pearl Harbor either. I believe that Neil Armstrong landed on the moon. Nobody has ever said that Iraq planned 911, only that they were supporting terrorists.

Peace and Love,
Samantha
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2008, 08:59:54 pm »
Funny this came up.  At the 2008 LPPA Convention in March I did a 10 questions survey / poll on conspiracies and who believes what.   I was very interested to see what the body of the LP thought of some of the 9.11 theories and the federal reserve.  Just over the weekend I wrote an article on the findings, which were very interesting. 

I will post it shortly, it's on my other computer....sorry.   Stand by.  The results might shock you.
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2008, 09:06:53 pm »
Quote from: klapton on June 25, 2008, 10:24:02 am
The real asnwer to 911:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNwtJLnMoiw

Watch all the way to the end to get the real answer.

That was great klapton.  Thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2008, 10:00:54 pm »
Let's take a walk down memory lane....

As for conspiracy theories, my eyes opened after the TWA 800 event.  I guess I believe the mechanical problem explanation -- planes usually do develop mechanical problems when a missile explodes nearby.

I think TWA 800 served to encourage terrorists and government.  Terrorists would be encouraged to keep trying.  Government would be encouraged to cover-up more.  It's my guess that 911 was the next encouraging step for both.

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2008, 11:08:33 pm »
I'm not saying we need to embrace every conspiracy theory known to man, but how about a real investigation.  Shouldn't we know the names of the people who flew those planes?  Shouldn't we know who masterminded the attack?  Shouldn't we know who funded it all (hint...the last I heard the money trail leads to Pakistan)?  There are a lot of flaws in the Popular Mechanics evaluation.  All of the buildings looked like implosions.  Experts seem to disagree on the towers, but I'm not sure how anyone can explain away building 7. If they were imploded (and there is a lot of evidence to suggest that), it doesn't necessarily mean our government was involved.  

There is no doubt that the attacks on these towers involved a conspiracy.  The question is who organized the conspiracy, who was involved in its execution and who funded it.  That is a lot of who's.  I think the American people and those who lost loved ones in those towers are entitled to those answers.

A band of wives in New Jersey produced the video 9/11 Press for Truth  I don't know if I'll be satisfied until they are.  

We usually investigate crimes.  I don't know why this one would be any different.  Asking for a full investigation doesn't diminish anyone's standing in my eyes.

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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2008, 11:16:33 pm »
www.zeitgeistmovie.com

thats a wide spread movie most people get aquinted with when being introduced to 'conspiracies'......

or go to www.copvcia.com: a good 'conspiracy' site with a lot of interesting subjects by Michael Ruppert, from cia cocaine smuggling to testimonials from associates of David Rockefellar giving testimony to having 'inside' knowledge to 9/11 and 7/7(great britain)
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