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« on: June 06, 2008, 03:53:17 pm »

I've taken the time to read through the Party platform several times over the last three days. A lot of things that are presently covered by government agency enforcement, will be handled through litigation. In the platform there seems to be no provisions for Tort reform. I can envision more legal challenges where there is not a regulated government endorsed standard. Health care in Pennsylvania is already ravaged by civil suits. Why is there no provision for Tort reform in the platform?

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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2008, 12:44:02 pm »

Primarily, I hope, because most people can see that tort reform is a joke.  The basis of tort reform is to deny citizens access to the courts by legislating what right people have to have that access, and against whom they have it.

To protect one segment of the population (certain areas of business) from suit at the expense of another segment by legislative fiat is government protectionism imo as well as a possibly unconstitutional denial of access to the judicial branch.

So it all revolves around whether there should be a regulated standard -- and what for.  Is it the same in all areas of lawsuit?  Or will it differ based on type of suit, type of plaintiff, or type of defendant?  What becomes the basis for regulating this, and how much power should we give the govenment -- especially in allowing any one branch of government to attempt to devour another? 

My feeling is that if you don't like judicial legislation, you'll also hate legislative jurisprudence.

The issue with health care in PA as I understand it from the doctors I speak to is the cost of malpractice insurance.  The problem isn't the number of suits but, nationally, the increasingly high jury verdicts awarded where malpractice is determined.  Citizens who are to be on juries need to be educated as to their real duties rather than being allowed to run loose on sympathy.  That's what winds up affecting insurors' rates.

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2008, 02:22:29 pm »

So you consider all tort reform to be a sham?

Should Jury shopping be permitted? Jury shopping is where lawyers seek to file suit in a court known for favoring the plaintiff and handing out large awards regardless of where the matter to be litigated occurred. This practice would seem to be against your premise of an educated jury.

What would be wrong with looser pays court costs? It is used in many other western countries. It cuts down on frivolous lawsuits. Libertarians would seem to be in favor of the second ammendment. Across the nation there is a movement to litigate to death firearms and ammunition manufacturers. Even if they win every lawsuit they slowly go out of business because of the overall cost of litigating. many of these lawsuits are initiated by municipalities at tax payers expense, a situation where bottomless pockets are the defacto winner over pockets with bottoms.

Liability for awards being equal to proven causality. Whoever has the deepest pockets pays most of the Jury award. In a given case a dozen defendants may be listed. If the one with the most money is found to be 1% liable, why should they be responsible for paying more than 1% of the award?

I have heard said many times a variation of the following: "When you go to court you are placing your life in the hands of 12 people too stupid to get out of Jury duty." The concept of an educated Jury sounds great, how do you do this? Would not Jury education requirements be a type of Judicial reform? I have answered the call for Jury duty once myself, when I was employed by someone who paid me for the days. Right now I am self employed, and it would be a real financial hardship on my family if I was to be on a jury for more than a few days, so I asked to be exempted.

I just find it hard to believe that there is room for improvement in the Legislative branch and the Executive branch but Libertarians think that the Judicial branch is perfect.

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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2008, 11:12:32 pm »

The judicial branch is absoultely not perfect in any means.  Decisions on emminent domain and other activist decisions are just a few examples.  At the risk of sounding brash, jury selecting is definitely tricky, as, for lack of better terms, we do not need opportunists or people with bad judgement on the jury.  There is no justification, going so far back as the McDonalds coffee case, that juries should be tricked in to awarding large settlements to people when simple common sense would have prevented such accidents.  I think it is also a good example to point out the Vioxx problem.  After the risks of the pill were made fully aware, should a massive settlement have followed?  I personally know a few people for whom Vioxx was an acceptable risk as it made their life better, at least they were able to move around and get by on it, even if it did present higher risks.  At that point it was their decision.  Further more, if the FDA and Merck, or any other organization had passed the threshold for being considered viably safe, then absolutely awards should be limited.  Think of it this way, too, if a pill came out to cure AIDS, but then a few years later it turned out that based on new scientific evidence it were to cause, say, a peanut allergy, should that pill be outlawed or should the companies be held liable for something they were unaware of at the time?  Shouldn't consumers be free to assume that risk on their own?  Large settlements for insane lawsuits have led to a large movement of doctors in particular, out of the state.  We also see the brain drain effect on other issues too, where we have excellent educational institutions but we continually see well educated, well trained people leave the state for less oppressive taxes and more common sense law applications.
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2008, 06:34:14 am »

Before the Coffee was Dow Corning breast silicone Implants. Incredibly large pay out and removal of the product from market. Lots of women took the stand explaining the problems the breast implants caused. All of the complaints were in the statistical norm for women without breast implants. No scientist who was not on the lawyers payroll thought that a cause and effect was shown. Total travesty. The big looser of course was the removal of a product enjoyed by many breast cancer survivors.

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