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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2008, 10:39:20 pm » |
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With a Libertarian Candidate listed for the U.S. House 3rd District, Randall Forester, but there is no place where I see the address information to fill in the right side of the petition. What do we do with the address block for Randall or the other "fill in the blank" candidates???
The candidates name, address and occupation must be the same for every petition. This is listed on the front page, just below the President and Statewide Candidates. If you do not know exactly what to put here, contact the candidate or the state chair, Mik Robertson. Let me know if you need his contact information. weneedjohngalt9@yahoo.com
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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2008, 07:07:14 pm » |
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Hi, I'm new to the LP and would like to help collect signatures for ballot access. What are the necessary qualifications for someone to do so? Section E of the nomination papers make it look like the collector must be "commissioned".
Also, item number 3 under "Printing Instructions" on the papers download page suggests that there should be instructions included with the nomination papers. The file, however, has only the two pages for the nomination form itself. Did I miss something?
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2008, 08:04:56 pm » |
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Hi, I'm new to the LP and would like to help collect signatures for ballot access. What are the necessary qualifications for someone to do so? Section E of the nomination papers make it look like the collector must be "commissioned".
If you are registered to vote in Pennsylvania, you are qualified to circulate nomination papers. Where it says "my commission expires___" in left half of Section E is the area for the notary public to fill in their notary information. Also, item number 3 under "Printing Instructions" on the papers download page suggests that there should be instructions included with the nomination papers. The file, however, has only the two pages for the nomination form itself. Did I miss something?
Oops! you are correct and I'm surprised no one has brought that up prior to now. The state actually provided the instructions on a sheet separate from the nomination papers this year. I uploaded the instructions and corrected the web page to include a link to the state provided instruction document. Thanks for the help. Every little bit counts. Even if it is only a half dozen signatures. All those sheets with a few signatures can add up to a successful signatures drive and assure we attain ballot access. We have a couple people who will gather 1,000 or more all by themselves. I wish I had that kind of time to commit. Please let us know how you make out. Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns. Thanks David Jahn
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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2008, 07:20:48 pm » |
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Thanks for the response David.
New questions:
1. By when should I submit my signatures to the party?
2. Should I number all of my pages (if I have more than one) or are they numbered after they're all collected by the party?
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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2008, 08:34:59 pm » |
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Thanks for the response David.
New questions:
1. By when should I submit my signatures to the party?
2. Should I number all of my pages (if I have more than one) or are they numbered after they're all collected by the party?
Jonson
Jonson Excellent questions! 1. We will probably post information regarding turn in procedures soon. We'll likely want them turned in around the middle of July to allow us time to review and organize the papers. 2. The party will number the pages. When we recieve all of the papers from across the state, we will number them and organize them before presenting them to the state. Thanks for the questions and the help. David Jahn
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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2008, 12:09:06 am » |
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I just printed the forms and will be bringing them to our Ron Paul meetup meeting tomorrow (I don't have far to go, we're meeting in my restaurant! lol) but I wanted to ask if any thought has been given to collecting a lot of signatures the way the Ron Paul group did - that is, let people come to us.
I know we did that several times, a few times at my place while it was closed, once at a Barnes and Noble, and another couple of times a Pizza shop owned by one of our guys, and we got hundreds of sigs that way. Now we did have quite an extensive email list to notify (about 600 emails in Lehigh and Northampton) about the signature events, but we should have some emails shouldn't we?
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2008, 03:04:09 am » |
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I just printed the forms and will be bringing them to our Ron Paul meetup meeting tomorrow (I don't have far to go, we're meeting in my restaurant! lol) but I wanted to ask if any thought has been given to collecting a lot of signatures the way the Ron Paul group did - that is, let people come to us.
I know we did that several times, a few times at my place while it was closed, once at a Barnes and Noble, and another couple of times a Pizza shop owned by one of our guys, and we got hundreds of sigs that way. Now we did have quite an extensive email list to notify (about 600 emails in Lehigh and Northampton) about the signature events, but we should have some emails shouldn't we?
We aren't set up to broadcast to each county at this time, but that is something we could possibly make happen. We have some emails, but not nearly that many. You are making me realize that we should recommend to those who became active in the Ron Paul movement that they should sign up on the forums and/or mailing list of like minded groups like the Libertarian Party so they can keep abreast of the efforts of others with similar goals. David Jahn
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2008, 06:40:42 am » |
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A former Libertarian now green has suggested to me that we do a combined meeting. They sign our ballot and we sign theirs. Thoughts?
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2008, 07:02:43 am » |
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A former Libertarian now green has suggested to me that we do a combined meeting. They sign our ballot and we sign theirs. Thoughts?
Samantha
Samantha The law says you can only sign one ballot. Most likely the signatures involved for both parties would be disqualified if they were challenged. The Democrats have challenged the Greens more than once. If Barr gets any traction, the Republicans are likely to come after us. The bottom line is that I see no benefit to doing having a signing party with greens. David Jahn
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2008, 07:15:34 am » |
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A former Libertarian now green has suggested to me that we do a combined meeting. They sign our ballot and we sign theirs. Thoughts?
Samantha
A former L now G? That's a first. Do you have any insight of the switch? Sounds like someone is confused.
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« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2008, 01:33:26 am » |
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I can't really fathom helping the Green Party. They're very close to the old Reds. Greens have a true hatred for the free market in general.
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« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2008, 02:22:41 am » |
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Just to update everyone, it looks like we have about 50,000 signatures in hand at the moment and still have volunteers turning in papers. If everyone could get their signatures wrapped up, papers notarized and send them no later than Saturday, July 19 to:
Libertarian Party of Pennsylvania 3915 Union Deposit Road, Box #223 Harrisburg, PA 17109
that would be ideal. I believe there may be a couple of late-entry district candidates that are still looking for signatures, so please let me know if anyone needs extra help at this point.
Thank You to all who contributed to making this one of the best nomination paper drives ever! It does not look like the number of signatures will be a problem for us, even if there is a challenge. Please send in every paper you have, as the more we turn in the better it will be!
To put this in some perspective, the Green Party has just called off their nomination paper drive as they only have about 7,000 signatures with little hope of reaching the required 24,666. It remains to be seen if Ralph Nader will be on the ballot, but I believe his crew will be able to get him enough signatures.
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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2008, 02:01:51 pm » |
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Does the 24,666 number mean that the LP gets some kind of status that allows them to then field as many candidates as they want for any offices in PA for this election year? Or does that just get people on the ballot for Treasurer, Auditor, Attorney General, Governor, etc (true statewide offices)?
btw, I'm a PA native, moving back to PA next spring and would love LOVE to work with other LPers on fielding a full state of candidates in 2010. I know it's early to act, but it's never too early to talk about it. I know it's a huge job, but I'm committed.
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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2008, 11:36:54 pm » |
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The 24,666 number means we get our statewide candidates on the ballot this year, and that is all. If any statewide candidate gets more than 2% of the vote in November, then we get what is called "Minor Party" status. That means our candidates will have to file different forms when they go to get a similar (or perhaps much larger) number of signatures in the 2010 election. It also means the Libertarian Party gets a box on the voter registration forms that people can check to register as a Libertarian voter, rather than having to check the "other" box and write in Libertarian.
Under current election law, our status will not change significantly until there are 15% of the registered voters registered as Libertarian (right now it is about 0.5%). At that point we would be forced to participate in the primary election system, which we are currently precluded from. Hopefully the election laws in PA will change to not only make ballot access more uniform, but remove the compulsion to have taxpayer funded nominations.
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