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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2008, 12:15:44 am »

It's true, private charity can pick up a lot where private enterprise leaves off. Nothing interferes with either quite like government regulation. Efficiency goes out the window. The keys are the choice of the individual and the freedom of practitioners to practice.

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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2008, 06:59:02 am »

Well, I think government CAN be efficient, I just haven't seen it yet.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2008, 08:54:24 pm »

Well, I think government CAN be efficient, I just haven't seen it yet.

John,

It would seem that you most closely identify with Newt Gingrich, he is more opposed to inefficient government than big government.

The United states Military is the most efficient thing in government. This efficiency comes with an incredibly huge price tag. Not even the VA is run like military medicine.

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2008, 05:44:29 pm »

Well, I think government CAN be efficient, I just haven't seen it yet.

John,

It would seem that you most closely identify with Newt Gingrich, he is more opposed to inefficient government than big government.

The United states Military is the most efficient thing in government. This efficiency comes with an incredibly huge price tag. Not even the VA is run like military medicine.

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The US Military is EFFECTIVE (i.e. it's good at blowing stuff up) but it is NOT efficient.  Not in the slightest.  Here's just one little example:  people in my army reserve unit are still waiting to get some travel pay from a gig we did last July.  We are all taking bets about whether we will get our travel pay from THIS year's annual training before we get last year's.
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2008, 07:54:45 pm »

Samantha,

I think that you're being quite unfair. I am not saying that government should take control of things when it CAN be efficient. I am saying that government is not inherently inefficient. Government does not equal inefficiency, though most of the time the government is indeed inefficient. The problem with our government is that it is not a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. When that becomes the case, if ever, then we will see government efficiency in whatever tasks we choose to assign it, because care will be taken in these tasks, corruption will cease, and our cause will be just.

Believe me, I am an advocate of small government.
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2008, 07:53:09 am »

John,

I did not mean to insult you by comparing you to Newt Gingrich, I may have a difference of opinion with him on some issues but generally hold him in high regard. It was not my intent to be unfair.

Any system where a persons pay check is not related to their productivity, will be by it's nature inefficient. This is true of government workers and some union labor. I have yet to see a government program that has productivity even defined let alone advocated. How do you define productivity for government? As long as it has the means to take what it wants, it has no incentive. As long as it operates as a monopoly, there is no incentive.

How do you exactly make this efficient government you desire? Most people seem to forget that when Abraham Lincoln said, '...a government of the people, by the people, and for the people."; he was not overly concerned about the government of the people, by the people, and for the people in eleven states. Government was anything but efficient in Lincoln's day.

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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2008, 09:10:22 am »

Lincoln is not exactly a hero of mine.

I think that the thing to consider here is that any given thing has a maximum efficiency and any group of people can maximize efficiency. When you accept that government is just a group of people, then you have to accept that they can maximize efficiency. The reasons why government is inefficient lay largely in matters of corruption, apathy, and the fact that our government has too broad a role in governing too large a populace.
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