I don't know any Libertarian who is advocating the use of strategic atomic weapons against terrorists; the most I've heard is the use of small, targeted tactical atomic weapons against the deep cave tunnels in Afghanistan.  

This is precisely why the Geneva Conventions do not apply to terrorists--they do not respect the rules of war agreed to by most nations.

And extensions to The Pledge:

1.  People who promote the initiation of force in response to threats:
  - Jim
  - KenC
  - RonS

2.  People who oppose the initiation of force in response to threats:
  - KenK

3.  Haven't said:
  - Chuck
  - EVC Darren

Before you put me in group one, I'd have to know what type of threat you are referring to. If someone points a gun at my family and declares the intention to shoot, yes I would try to get the first shot off if I could.

Clearly, that is completely different from slaughtering hundreds of thousands of civilians in a far away land because somebody there has "WMD related program activities".

From: Ken Krawchuk <KenKrawchuk@Enter.Net>
To: pa-libernet@lppa.org; H. Antoinette Hilmer <freelady99@netcarrier.com>
Subject: Re: Kuck the Flan!
Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 9:48 PM


     FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
     May 23, 1999
     For more information, contact Christina A. Belovesick

          LEEBERNETIANS EGG WOMAN'S HOUSE IN BUCKS COUNTY

          Scions of Pa-LEEbernet stormed Toni Hilmer's house this evening in
     retaliation for her exercising her right to free speech.  Hilmer, a
     long-time Libertarian activist, stated in an e-mail that she has "the right
     to throw eggs at" the KKK.  But in saying so, Hilmer inadvertently
     established the precedent of egging anyone you happen to disagree
     with.

          Taking advantage of this new loophole regarding the eggnitiation of
     the use of force, the ever-argumentative LEEbernetians replied quickly, and in
     force.  So many eggs were rained on Hilmer's house that there was a brief
     spike in the egg futures market when news of the massive egging broke.

          Concern was raised whether there would be enough eggs for an upcoming
     KKK rally in Butler.  When questioned about a possible run on eggs, a clerk at
     the Acme quizzically said "We have lots of eggs".

          Hilmer was not surprised by the attack.  In the past, Hilmer had
     written, "If ya do not like what I have to say, you could toss an egg at me".
     Prophetically, she added that she "would be willing to pay the price" for
     her pro-egg stand, a price she paid tonight.

          "We also could be come victims of such 'egg throws'", Hilmer had
     warned, but adding:  "Hey, that's fine by me!"

          Since no law was broken, the eggers remained on the scene afterward to
     sign autographs and receive cholesterol tests.  Bill Shadle, a
     LEEbernetian, observed: "Isn't it a terrible thing to have principles?"

          "Look out for the return," Hilmer rejoined.

                                   - 30 -

     From: Ken Krawchuk <KenKrawchuk@Enter.Net>
     To: Rick Gemi <rmg26@hotmail.com>; freelady99@netcarrier.com
     Cc: pa-libernet@lppa.org
     Subject: Re: Kuck the Flan!
     Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 7:19 AM

     ----------
     > From: Rick Gemi <rmg26@hotmail.com>
     > To: freelady99@netcarrier.com
     > Cc: pa-libernet@lppa.org
     > Subject: Re: Kuck the Flan!
     > Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 11:29 PM
     >
     > I conclude you're in denial that the act of throwing eggs at people
     > with very low intelligence levels could possibly ignite an already volatile
     > situation into a fist fight or a gun fight, where others around you may get
     > hurt or even killed.  Am I right?


          Are you?  From today's Montgomery County Record...

     --------------------

     TROOPER FEARED KLAN WOULD SHOOT HIM

          SOMERSET (AP) - A state trooper testified Tuesday that he believed he
     would be shot during a confrontation with Ku Klux Klan members at a
     Somerset County farm.

          Trooper George Emigh took the stand during the first day of testimony in
     the trial of Klan members Donald Lee Penrod, 49, of Boswell; Michael
     Abraham, 31, of Bethlehem; Adam Moyer, 34, of Lehighton; and Ronald Bedics,
     35, of Whitehall.  All were charged with aggravated assault, simple
     assault, reckless endangerment and terroristic threats.

          Emigh was part of a surveillance team watching over Penrod's Jenner
     Township farm during a Klan picnic.  Emigh testified that he was sitting in
     a tree on adjoining property when Klan members spotted him and threatened
     him with guns.

          "I felt my best option was not to move," Emigh said.

          Defense lawyer James L. Heidecker Jr., who is representing Bedics, told
     the jury during opening statements that troopers were actually threatening
     the people at the picnic.

:twisted: Give Iranians 3 days to leave the country. Those who do can return to reclaim their country, those who don't leave need nuked. This way they get to recieve their nuke weapons they want so bad, & get peace at the same time. They can visit with Alah.