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Title: NAFTA Super Highway - SPP - On congress floor Post by: bdively on June 13, 2008, 10:15:31 pm Now look. I am no conspiracy guy by any means. I feel no missile hit the pentagon and it was Islamic terrorist that flew those planes.
BUT, I am getting concerned that this is happening. Not so much that this (super highway) might happen, but the media is neglecting to report it. People say we are kooks for believing this but here it is on YouTUBE and not on the MSM. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TShPYA-OuPs Title: Re: NAFTA Super Highway - SPP - On congress floor Post by: Samantha1965 on June 14, 2008, 08:11:14 am Remember, if people actually are after you, then you are not paranoid. The standard reply to asking questions on a greater North American union is that you are a kook for asking. As for why there is very little indepth investigative reporting on this issue, I have no clue.
Samantha Title: Re: NAFTA Super Highway - SPP - On congress floor Post by: JohnKOTR on June 14, 2008, 09:04:17 am The reality is that there is no democratic voice with regard to the international agreements that have been forming between the US, Mexico, and Canada. These agreements are ruled purely by corporate interests, much like; or rather as a consequence of our government being ruled by corporate interests. Senators and Congressmen don't govern this nation in the name of the people. The vast majority of them govern this nation in the name of Ford Motor Company, Exxon, and GE. They represent those who get them elected, and these days, it isn't the people.
Title: Re: NAFTA Super Highway - SPP - On congress floor Post by: foobar on June 15, 2008, 10:57:28 pm If this passes, I wouldn't be surprised if we started seeing a push for those amero coins again. Our founding fathers did not believe in open borders, let alone something as crazy and stupid as this. Unfortunately, Obama & McCain seem to be pro-globalists, so don't expect their cabinets to be against this either.
Title: Re: NAFTA Super Highway - SPP - On congress floor Post by: bdively on June 16, 2008, 04:40:40 am Our founding fathers did not believe in open borders, let alone something as crazy and stupid as this. Unfortunately, Obama & McCain seem to be pro-globalists, so don't expect their cabinets to be against this either. Going to have to be a little more specific than this. What are you referring to? Trade? Immigration? Site any founder quotes or documentation. Title: Re: NAFTA Super Highway - SPP - On congress floor Post by: klapton on June 16, 2008, 08:05:47 am Our founding fathers did not believe in open borders, let alone something as crazy and stupid as this. Unfortunately, Obama & McCain seem to be pro-globalists, so don't expect their cabinets to be against this either. Going to have to be a little more specific than this. What are you referring to? Trade? Immigration? Site any founder quotes or documentation. Title: Re: NAFTA Super Highway - SPP - On congress floor Post by: Samantha1965 on June 16, 2008, 08:41:51 am Klapton,
I do believe that you're talking about Ole Hickory, Andrew Jackson. I don't really consider him to be a founding father. He certainly would be a pivotal figure in moving the nation away from Libertarian principals. Samantha Title: Re: NAFTA Super Highway - SPP - On congress floor Post by: klapton on June 16, 2008, 09:45:26 am Klapton, No... Very few European settlers in America had any qualms about displacing the "savages" from the very beginning. You are correct, of course, about the Democratic Party's first president being responsible for countless native deaths. But we have a LOOONNGG history before that of treating non-Europeans as less than human.I do believe that you're talking about Ole Hickory, Andrew Jackson. I don't really consider him to be a founding father. He certainly would be a pivotal figure in moving the nation away from Libertarian principals. Samantha Title: Re: NAFTA Super Highway - SPP - On congress floor Post by: bdively on June 16, 2008, 07:45:51 pm "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Music to my ears. We welcome all to our country that want liberty Title: Re: NAFTA Super Highway - SPP - On congress floor Post by: billseeds on June 25, 2008, 12:48:24 am i cant afford to drive on I-81, whos guna be able to afford to drive on a SUPERHIGHWAY?
Title: Re: NAFTA Super Highway - SPP - On congress floor Post by: foobar on June 25, 2008, 01:07:21 pm Our founding fathers did not believe in open borders, let alone something as crazy and stupid as this. Unfortunately, Obama & McCain seem to be pro-globalists, so don't expect their cabinets to be against this either. Going to have to be a little more specific than this. What are you referring to? Trade? Immigration? Site any founder quotes or documentation. http://www.idexer.com/articles/jefferson.htm (http://www.idexer.com/articles/jefferson.htm) Quote Civil government being the sole object of forming societies, its administration must be conducted by common consent. Every species of government has its specific principles. Ours perhaps are more peculiar than those of any other in the universe. It is a composition of the freest principles of the English constitution, with others derived from natural right and natural reason. To these nothing can be more opposed than the maxims of absolute monarchies. Essentially, when you "open the gates", you get this whole new culture that isn't used to the American way of doing things. As a result, you get turmoil and it makes these people that much more alienated. Letting them come in gradually will still allow us to keep our system of government intact and it would allow people here to adjust to the new immigrants gradually.Yet, from such, we are to expect the greatest number of emigrants. They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; or, if able to throw them off, it will be in exchange for an unbounded licentiousness, passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. These principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children. In proportion to their numbers, they will share with us the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its direction, and render it a heterogeneous, incoherent, distracted mass. I may appeal to experience, during the present contest, for a verification of these conjectures. But, if they be not certain in event, are they not possible, are they not probable? Is it not safer to wait with patience 27 years and three months longer, for the attainment of any degree of population desired, or expected? May not our government be more homogeneous, more peaceable, more durable? Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom? If it would be more turbulent, less happy, less strong, we may believe that the addition of half a million of foreigners to our present numbers would produce a similar effect here. If they come of themselves, they are entitled to all the rights of citizenship: but I doubt the expediency of inviting them by extraordinary encouragements….
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