The Libertarian Party of Pennsylvania - Forum

Let Peaceful People Cross Borders Freely

People have the right to travel anywhere, and to take any job offered them, so long as they do it at their own expense and without violating the rights of others.

A way to help the poor is to let them go where the work is, regardless of borders. Studies show that immigrants don't take jobs from others, they add to the economy and help create more jobs.

America was built by immigrants who came here seeking nothing but opportunity and freedom - and created the greatest, most productive society ever.

Respect for human rights and compassion for the world's poor require that we relax immigration restrictions.

People do not have the right to travel anywhere in this country. Citizens of this country cannot travel anywhere they want to within our own borders. And I am not just talking about private property. We cannot travel freely on some public property. And to be honest, is this person entirely sure that these illegal immigrants are not violating the rights of the taxpayer by earning untaxed wages while a citizen has to pay. I realize there is a great disconnect here about taxes. We believe there should be no income tax. But we have to pay it here and now.

In 1950, whites were 28 percent of world population and Africans 9 percent, a ratio of three-to-one. In 2060, the ratio will remain the same. But the colors will be reversed. People of African ancestry will be 25 percent of the world’s population. People of European descent will have fallen to 9.8 percent.

More arresting is that the white population is shrinking not only in relative but in real terms. Two hundred million white people, one in every six on earth — a number equal to the entire population of France, Britain, Holland and Germany — will vanish by 2060.

The Caucasian race is going the way of the Mohicans.

Arabic peoples, 94 million at the birth of Israel in 1948, outnumbered seven to one by Europeans, will rise to 743 million in 2060, a tenfold increase, and will be 75 percent of the white population.

Fleshing out the NPI picture is the U.N. population survey of mid-2007 that points to the 21st century disappearance of Western Man.

By 2050, a fourth of all the people of Eastern Europe will have vanished. Ukraine will lose one-third of its population. Russia, 150 million at the breakup of the Soviet Union, 142 million today, will be down to 108 million. Such losses dwarf what Hitler and Stalin together did to these countries.

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By 2050, Iran’s population will have risen from today’s 71 million to 100 million. Pakistan will add 84 million to reach almost 300 million, the U.S. population today. Afghanistan’s population will triple from 27 million to 79 million. Iraq’s will go from 29 million to 62 million. The destinies of these nations will be beyond the capacity of an aging, dwindling, dying West to dictate.

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And America? According to the Pew Research Center, the Hispanic population of the United States will triple to 127 million by 2050, as Mexico’s population grows to 130 million. An erasure of the U.S. border, or merger of the two countries, or the linguistic, cultural and social annexation of the American Southwest by Mexico appears fated.

Yet, last October, in another Pew poll of 45,000 people in 47 countries, a majority in 46 expressed fear of a loss of their traditional culture.

Sixty-two percent of Americans told Pew we should do more to protect our way of life. Three-fourths of Americans wanted more restrictions on immigration. Yet all three presidential candidates voted amnesty for the 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens.

I think the concept of race is difficult to define to begin with, and increased travel with greater voluntary associations amongst many different people make race less significant with each passing day. I believe anyone from anywhere in the world is capable of contributing to American culture. Variety is the spice of life, and racial identifications should not play a role in setting immigration policy.

There does need to be reasonable security at national borders in order for the federal government to fulfill its responsibilities. It would be fair that the reason for an applicant's desire to immigrate be determined. If someone is coming to sponge off the abundant social services provided in the US, has a history of committing criminal acts, is a member of known terrorist organizations or advocates the violent overthrow of government, perhaps we could ask them to wait for a while before entering the country.

If people want to come here to be with family, visit or work, that should not be a problem. It should be easier to enter the country legally than illegally, which is not the case now.

Mik Robertson

I'm not sure that "American" or "Mexican" are races as much as they are nationalities. Are you talking about indigenous people who lived in what is now territory of the United States and Mexico?

I think Mexico is in the condition it is in more because of the policies of the government, which tend to limit liberty, and the notorious corruption than because of anything inherent in the citizens. The Mexican government is more oppressive and opportunities are more limited, so people come here. I don't think there is any mystery about that.

There was a case not terribly long ago in the United States when a local elected official on the East Coast stated that the crime and social ills of the city were largely due to the Italians (the police force being largely Irish). Does that sound similar to what has just been said? Do you think it is true that the "race" of Italians turned the United states into a replica Italian government?

Certainly one of the problems that arise when people do come here illegally is that they remain at the margin of society, where the mechanisms of a government that could help to secure individual rights are avoided because they would also be prosecuted for their illegal entry. Therefore the "voluntary" associations of the gangs fill that void. I think it more shows the result of anarcho-capitalism than any reflection of "race".

I don't believe immigration is the problem. I believe illegal immigration is the problem. What is it that The New Colossus says? I don't recall it saying "Keep out the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to bring their form of oppression, keep the wretched refuse off our clean-washed shore. Send away the homeless and tempest-tost, I turn the lock inside the golden door!"

How do you explain the overwhelming number of African-American gangs, then? Why all of the Puerto Rican gangs in Reading?